Title: Alternate Character Interpretation-
Description: and conspiracy theories
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 6, 2009 04:21 AM (GMT)
This is a thread to post ideas about characters that might run counter to the more popular and immediate perceptions about them, and argue your case.
This is also a thread to present musings about the entire nature of the show that run counter to the superficial and normal interpretation, possibly involving a questioning of the reliability of the presented story's integrity (for example, "the last three episodes are all Osaka's daydream", or "the show is actually the musings of the main characters during a reunion some ten years later, which is why the events are so random and the characters are so over-the-top).
My first conspiracy theory/alternate interpretation: Yomi is a psychic vampire. That's the reason why she hangs out with the hyperactive wildcat Tomo. She doesn't enjoy the company much, but she can't resist the delicious allure of Tomo's abundant life force and random energy. This may also be why she has trouble losing weight. Who could keep their calories down when there's so much Tomo mojo to tap into?
cvn-tv-dip - July 6, 2009 07:02 PM (GMT)
Although thinking of alternate interpretations are interesting, that really seems like a fan fiction material.
Simply put, it's an animated show about high school girls with some imaginative qualities. That's all there is to it.
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 7, 2009 03:24 AM (GMT)
What you get out of the show can be greater than what was put into it.
Yes, it's an animated show about high school girls with imaginative qualities, but that doesn't have to be all it is.
Another alternate character interpretation: Kimura doesn't actually like high school girls. It's just an act he puts on so that the boys will respect him, and/or because he's inwardly amused by the shock and revulsion.
Ryuu - July 7, 2009 03:29 AM (GMT)
with that last one you're quickly straying from overanalysis using stuff from the show to stuff that doesn't make sense at all
motorola_otaku - July 7, 2009 03:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 6 2009, 10:29 PM) |
| With that last one, you're quickly straying from overanalysis using stuff from the show to stuff that doesn't make sense at all. |
I might also call it justification, but ehn.
I am also predisposed to sometimes saying and doing strange things just to gauge peoples' reactions. I do not, however, pander to people for their respect.. I earn it. B)
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 7, 2009 06:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 6 2009, 11:29 PM) |
| with that last one you're quickly straying from overanalysis using stuff from the show to stuff that doesn't make sense at all |
I dunno. He has an attractive, caring, wife, and although he stares a lot and says creepy things he doesn't actually "cross the line" insofar as personal contact is concerned. He also has a tendency towards very over-the-top and downright surreal outbursts, re, running around with the Father hat over his eyes, pulling on the big floral hat and singing "happy birthday to me" loudly, badly, and in English. Maybe he acts out in these strange ways to get attention or amuse himself.
Epic Lady - July 7, 2009 06:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fuzzy Necromancer @ Jul 7 2009, 07:02 PM) |
| QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 6 2009, 11:29 PM) | | with that last one you're quickly straying from overanalysis using stuff from the show to stuff that doesn't make sense at all |
I dunno. He has an attractive, caring, wife, and although he stares a lot and says creepy things he doesn't actually "cross the line" insofar as personal contact is concerned. He also has a tendency towards very over-the-top and downright surreal outbursts, re, running around with the Father hat over his eyes, pulling on the big floral hat and singing "happy birthday to me" loudly, badly, and in English. Maybe he acts out in these strange ways to get attention or amuse himself.
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Kimura personifies a severe moral problem that pesters modern society - pedophilia - and satirizes it with outburst of what the audience would label as "madness" while retaining the comic propriety of the show. As to his own intent; he hasn't any. His own motivations to appear crazy are not part of the show and are therefore disregarded (by common law of Occam's razor), while the audience's labeling him "mad" also makes any questioning of his motives irrational, as he is clearly "mad".
Though I don't know if this counts under alternate character interpretations. :unsure:
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 7, 2009 09:59 PM (GMT)
Well, first, even insane people still have motives, often complex ones. They just do not correspond normally with a one-to-one ratio with the motives and modes of logic accepted as the norm.
With your use of Occam's razor. Are you referring to the principle that explanations should make as few assumptions as possible, or to the general rule of thumb saying that the simplest explanation is the best?
I think it would count as an alternate character interpretation, since while he is regarded in the show as creepy and unappealing, their is no overt statement that he is actually insane.
How does this interpretation reconcile with his tendency towards charitable acts, re, cleaning up garbage and giving to charitable causes?
cvn-tv-dip - July 7, 2009 10:11 PM (GMT)
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| How does this interpretation reconcile with his tendency towards charitable acts, re, cleaning up garbage and giving to charitable causes? |
Even out-of-place characters can have their soft, caring parts. So does Yukari.
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 7, 2009 10:31 PM (GMT)
Really? I don't recall seeing Yukari soft and caring anywhere in the series. o.0
Ryuu - July 7, 2009 10:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fuzzy Necromancer @ Jul 7 2009, 06:31 PM) |
| Really? I don't recall seeing Yukari soft and caring anywhere in the series. o.0 |
nyamo
cvn-tv-dip - July 7, 2009 10:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 7 2009, 02:50 PM) |
| nyamo |
It's been so long since I watched the series. This brings back memories.
motorola_otaku - July 8, 2009 05:11 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 7 2009, 05:50 PM) |
| QUOTE (Fuzzy Necromancer @ Jul 7 2009, 06:31 PM) | | Really? I don't recall seeing Yukari soft and caring anywhere in the series. o.0 |
nyamo
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Which itself was a bit of a creative liberty taken in the manga-anime translation, but at least it was a canon one.
On a related note, I would also like to say that the discussion about holding chopsticks taught me the correct way to hold them. WEEABOO POWER IS AT 110% GUYS. B)
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 8, 2009 09:30 PM (GMT)
Weeaboo always struck me as a rather strange derogatory term. It sounds like some kind of rare mushroom or species of fish. o.o
Ryuu - July 8, 2009 09:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fuzzy Necromancer @ Jul 8 2009, 05:30 PM) |
| Weeaboo always struck me as a rather strange derogatory term. It sounds like some kind of rare mushroom or species of fish. o.o |
'S from PBF.
(http://pbfcomics.com/)
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 8, 2009 10:09 PM (GMT)
Which one of the comics has that term?
Alternate character interpretation: Sakaki is fully aware of Kaori's crush on her, and feels some mutual attraction, but she's not quite ready to deal with her own sexual feelings. She's embarassed about her height, her bust, and all things that mark her as a woman grown. Deep down she wants to stay tiny and cute forever, and acknowledging her budding sexuality would mean giving up that dream. She feigns ignorance because that way she can put things off until she's really ready without hurting Kaori's feelings.
Jason - July 9, 2009 12:59 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fuzzy Necromancer @ Jul 7 2009, 04:59 PM) |
| How does this interpretation reconcile with his tendency towards charitable acts, re, cleaning up garbage and giving to charitable causes? |
Azuma secretly hates charitable, environmentally minded people and uses Kimura to give them a bad name.
| QUOTE (motorola_otaku @ Jul 8 2009, 12:11 PM) |
| On a related note, I would also like to say that the discussion about holding chopsticks taught me the correct way to hold them. WEEABOO POWER IS AT 110% GUYS. B) |
I learned how to properly split disposable chopsticks from Chiyo. Unlike my earlier claim, that's a true story.
Starra - July 9, 2009 01:06 AM (GMT)
Yomi works part time as a maid. She's also good friends with Chiyo's Dad.
Sakaki is a swordswoman.
Osaka is a vampire who likes smoked cheese.
Nyamo turns into a mouse.
Jason - July 9, 2009 01:16 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Starra @ Jul 8 2009, 08:06 PM) |
| Yomi works part time as a maid. |
Maid outfit Yomi? Now there's an alternative theory I can get behind. :wub:
cvn-tv-dip - July 9, 2009 01:24 AM (GMT)
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| Sakaki is a swordswoman. |
I thought that was obvious.
That's not so much of an alternate interpretation as it is just what would probably make sense.
osakaki - July 9, 2009 02:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Starra @ Jul 8 2009, 06:06 PM) |
Yomi works part time as a maid. She's also good friends with Chiyo's Dad.
Sakaki is a swordswoman.
Osaka is a vampire who likes smoked cheese.
Nyamo turns into a mouse. |
i get it
Fuzzy Necromancer - July 9, 2009 03:52 AM (GMT)
Ryuu - July 9, 2009 04:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (cvn-tv-dip @ Jul 8 2009, 09:24 PM) |
| QUOTE | | Sakaki is a swordswoman. |
I thought that was obvious.
That's not so much of an alternate interpretation as it is just what would probably make sense.
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Actually Sakaki is a natural expert in all forms of warfare.
motorola_otaku - July 9, 2009 01:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 8 2009, 11:21 PM) |
| QUOTE (cvn-tv-dip @ Jul 8 2009, 09:24 PM) | | QUOTE | | Sakaki is a swordswoman. |
I thought that was obvious.
That's not so much of an alternate interpretation as it is just what would probably make sense.
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Actually Sakaki is a natural expert in all forms of warfare.
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And He-Man. (Try not to look at the related videos.)
tedbannana - July 9, 2009 08:39 PM (GMT)
yukari just so happens to be my wife
most people dont know this
arren18 - July 11, 2009 10:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (motorola_otaku @ Jul 9 2009, 01:45 PM) |
| QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 8 2009, 11:21 PM) | | QUOTE (cvn-tv-dip @ Jul 8 2009, 09:24 PM) | | QUOTE | | Sakaki is a swordswoman. |
I thought that was obvious.
That's not so much of an alternate interpretation as it is just what would probably make sense.
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Actually Sakaki is a natural expert in all forms of warfare.
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And He-Man. (Try not to look at the related videos.) |
Now YouTube keeps recommending me strange things. :(
Jason - July 11, 2009 10:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (arren18 @ Jul 11 2009, 05:05 AM) |
| QUOTE (motorola_otaku @ Jul 9 2009, 01:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Ryuu @ Jul 8 2009, 11:21 PM) | | QUOTE (cvn-tv-dip @ Jul 8 2009, 09:24 PM) | | QUOTE | | Sakaki is a swordswoman. |
I thought that was obvious.
That's not so much of an alternate interpretation as it is just what would probably make sense.
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Actually Sakaki is a natural expert in all forms of warfare.
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And He-Man. (Try not to look at the related videos.) |
Now YouTube keeps recommending me strange things. :(
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Here's a higher quality version because this is awesomeness that deserves to be enjoyed in as high a quality as possible.